"Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo" (akioohtori)
12/13/2018 at 11:00 • Filed to: None
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"Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo" (akioohtori)
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The front page has a cute article about VW restoring a woman’s Beetle shes owned since new. They did a full on, super complete restoration and that made me think... Is it still “Annie”? (The car’s name)
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Thoughts?
winterlegacy, here 'till the end
> Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo
12/13/2018 at 11:08 |
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“Is it still Annie?” Ship of Theseus .
Legally, if it’s still the same VIN, it’s still the same car. honestly, this would land in the restomod category - and lots of people do restomods.
farscythe - makin da cawfee!
> Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo
12/13/2018 at 11:08 |
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its annie 2.0
the same but not
3point8isgreat
> Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo
12/13/2018 at 11:12 |
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I do love a good Ship of Theseus paradox. Given the paradox part I’m not aware of there being a “correct” answer. But it can be decided on an individual basis.
I’ve thought about this in deciding what I want to do with my Mustang in the future, since getting rid of it isn’t an emotionally acceptable answer to me. I really want to either turn it into a cheap race car (LeMons/Chumpcar maybe?), or do a full rebuild on it. But either way it’s tearing apart the car I currently know. I figure if it’s a race car it’s just living its best life. And if I do a full rebuild, whatever it loses in “originality” it gains in having more of my own work in it.
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Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo
> winterlegacy, here 'till the end
12/13/2018 at 11:34 |
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Ahh, I wasn’t aware of that one until now.
Legally, yes, it is the same car. But emotionally ?
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Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo
> 3point8isgreat
12/13/2018 at 11:36 |
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Yeah I think doing it yourself and bit by bit means the car is still the same car, but sending it off and getting it back some time later... I guess there isn’t that continuity of consciousness .
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> Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo
12/13/2018 at 11:37 |
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Well we humans replace most of our cells every 7 years anyways. Are we still us?
jasmits
> Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo
12/13/2018 at 11:44 |
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“This is my grandfather’s axe. My father replaced the handle and I replaced the head”
But, in all seriousness, most of the cells in the human body are replaced every decade or so(the 7-10 years thing people like to quote isn’t exactly true, every different type of cell is replaced at a different rate and there are some cells in the brain that are never replaced and some in the heart that are replaced so slowly that a lot last your entire life etc) but just because most of a human has been ‘rebuilt’ doesn’t make them someone else. But also I do agree, at what point is a machine no longer the same machine, especially when everything is replaced at once like this and not gradually over time.
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Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo
> 404 - User No Longer Available
12/13/2018 at 11:55 |
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Hopefully not.
vicali
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12/13/2018 at 13:20 |
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“Restored”
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winterlegacy, here 'till the end
> Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo
12/13/2018 at 13:32 |
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If you still think it’s the same car, the memories are there, it’s good enough.
Berang
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12/13/2018 at 13:49 |
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A car is just parts anyway.
CaptDale - is secretly British
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12/13/2018 at 16:46 |
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This
SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media
> Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo
12/13/2018 at 17:57 |
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I still covet my great Grandad’s axe...